DRUNKEN POST #20

I’ve been listening to a CD of remixes of the song, Pop Muzik, by M (Robin Scott).  In the first track (and possibly others), this line is heard: “In the beginning,  there was the word.”

This is taken from the first chapter of the book of John, in the New Testament of the Bible:  “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

On this passage alone (attributed to John, not to Jesus) is based the Christian doctrine that Jesus is God. 

Yet Christians ignore passages that contradict it, most notably this one, from the Nineteenth Chapter of the Book of Matthew: “And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?  And he [Jesus] said unto him, Why callest thou me good?  there is none good but one, that is, God…”

They taught me too well at Mobile Christian School.  Before I was even a teenager (as I recall), I was assigned to memorize the Ten Commandments in the Book of Exodus; the first being: “I am the Lord thy God . . . Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”  It was in that moment that I began to question the very doctrine of the Trinity.  ‘Everyone around me says Jesus is God,’ I thought, ‘But here God says he alone is God.’ 

Well, why do Christians follow the Old Testament anyway?  Again, the answer hinges on one passage alone, attributed to Jesus in the Book of Matthew: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets [the contents of the Old Testament]: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

And why do Christians also follow the latter New Testament–that which is included after the Gospels?  Same thing: because of this one passage from the Book of Revelation, attributed to John: “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things [these words], God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” 

Convenient, huh?  What better way to frighten people into following a book than to include a self-contained curse upon anyone who alters it?

Nothing in the Bible was written by Jesus.  In fact the first-written of the four accepted Gospels (there were many more not included) was Mark–and it was written forty years after Jesus’ death.

And nothing in the Bible was organized by Jesus’ disciples.  The entire Bible was organized and edited by bishops under the Roman Emperor Constantine.  In other words–it wasn’t Jesus who established Christianity, but the Roman Emperor Constantine.  Jesus had nothing to do with it.

God is not limited to one system of beliefs; God’s Word is not limited to one form of communication.  God is beyond anything we humans can imagine, classify, or manipulate.  In attempting to limit God, we only limit ourselves.

9 Responses to “DRUNKEN POST #20”


  1. 1 duncanr November 10, 2012 at 8:17 am

    My knowledge of the bible is not as great as yours but I don’t believe Jesus, himself, ever claimed to be a god, or the son of god? His reference to his father’s kingdom and his addressing God as ‘father’ while on the cross not being assertions of divinity but a simple recognition of god as the father of all creation – not claiming a unique biological relationship with God anymore than we do when we pray –

    Our father, which art in heaven . . .

    It is the Christian view of Jesus as the Son of God and the Crucifixion that turned me against Christianity. Preaching that Jesus was the son of God (and not just another in the line of prophets, as Muslims believe) makes the crucifixion hard to explain. The crucifixion and resurrection of Christ lies at the heart of Christianity yet it has never made any kind of logical sense to me. God so loved Mankind that he sent his only son to be put to a painful death on a cross ? Really ? What a load of tosh ! It makes absolutely no sense [to me] whatsoever! God loved us so much that he sacrificed his son for us? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense (I don’t think). And if Jesus really was God’s son – and a deity himself – and therefore immortal, then the whole crucifixion was just a sham – no sacrifice (or miracle) involved at all. Just a trick!

  2. 3 theduffboy November 14, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    I approach the Bible now very cautiously. After reading “The Year of Living Biblically”, though, I realize that interpretation is key when reading it, as well as having context and research to grasp the meaning of the actual words. Collaborative writing has its problems, as the perfect example shows.

  3. 6 frigginloon November 15, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    All religion scares me. I prefer to just be nice as I can to people and keep my head firmly hidden in the sand.

  4. 8 silasza June 15, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    God creates his first son: Adam a human being. Adam had no father or mother like us. Very unique.
    Adam fails, Jesus is born in a very similar process, Jesus has a mother but no human father. God is his father hence called son of God but in reality fully man/human.

    John says “in the beginning was the word” – Word is abstract and was the divine purpose of God. i.e. Jesus existed as a thought in the divine purpose of God.

    Jesus’ death primarily shows love to the extreme. Prior to Jesus God had sent prophets before destroying the wicked to appeal to them to turn to God and give up their evil ways. His son was sent to turn people to God. In the process the messenger dies as did the prophets before him. This is the maximum anyone can appeal to anyone. hence the phrase ‘God so loved the world”.

    Evil, Jealous men with the help of Pilate killed/murdered Jesus. Jesus trusted in God and was raised from the dead to glory. Jesus like the animals and plants would have perished, but God intervened and raised his from his grave.

    It is true that the Emperor Constantine authorized trinity but the books of the bible can be regarded reasonably authoritative as during Jesus’ time and the time of the apostles the Old testament was in circulation as ‘Scriptures’.

    While the bible has been authored over time and by various authors a common thread of light flows through.

    Example:
    Trinity is a very Roman Church thinking. OT taught one God and the Holy spirit was fully operational yet no one recognized the Holy Spirit as a separate God head.

    To agree the doctrine of Love is the most important. Without love all is vain. Jesus also gave examples of love – the story of the good samaritan, etc. Again Jesus was not teaching a new doctrine – the second most important command of the law was already recognized as ‘Love your neighbour as yourself” Jesus gave examples to the Jews of his time of how to apply it in their lives without prejudice.


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